About IT workers and their huge share of married with kids population

Ok not really, it’s a Census news release about some of the demographics of IT work though.  Relevant parts to my title are bolded.

Number of IT Workers Has Increased Tenfold Since 1970, Census Bureau Reports
IT Occupations
NEWS RELEASE: CB16-139

Workers Earn Almost Twice As Much As Other Occupations

AUG. 16, 2016 — The number of information technology (IT) workers now stands at 4.6 million, compared with just 450,000 in 1970 according to a new report from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey. This upsurge means that IT workers now represent 2.9 percent of the U.S. labor force.

“The Census Bureau first identified IT occupations in the 1970 Census,” Julia Beckhusen said, a senior economist in the Census Bureau’s Industry and Occupation Statistics Branch. “At that time, there were only three IT occupation categories. That number grew to 12 by 2010 as the variety of work continued to increase.”

IT workers are more likely to be men, and on average, they earn more than their female counterparts do ($82,370 median earnings compared with $72,035). The proportion of women in IT occupations peaked at 31 percent in 1990 and declined to 25 percent in 2014. In comparison, the proportion of women in all occupations has increased over time, from 38 percent in 1970 to 47 percent in 2014.

Median annual earnings of IT occupation workers were $80,665 in 2014, or almost twice as much as the median earnings of the total workforce in 2014.

The median earnings, adjusted for inflation, for both men and women in IT occupations rose between 1970 and 2014. In contrast, male workers in the overall workforce experienced earnings declines, while median earnings for women rose.

The highest earning IT occupations were computer and information research scientists, software developers, applications and system software, computer and information systems managers, and computer network architects, each with median earnings of $90,000 or more. A higher share of workers in these occupations also had advanced degrees. For instance, 52 percent of computer and information research scientists had at least a master’s degree. Additionally, 22 percent of IT workers had a master’s degree or higher compared with 12 percent for all workers.

IT workers were twice as likely to work at home as all workers (10 percent compared with 4 percent). Web developers had the highest rate (20 percent) of working at home, compared with other IT occupations. Moreover, web developers had among the highest rates of self-employment (21 percent).

IT workers also tend to be younger. More than half (55 percent) were between the ages of 25 and 44 compared with 43 percent of all workers. Within the IT occupations, web developers were among the youngest with 38 percent between the ages of 25 and 34 and 11 percent between the ages of 16 and 24.

These statistics come from the Occupations in Information Technology report that uses statistics from decennial censuses and the American Community Survey to explore trends and characteristics of IT workers and describes the growth and increasing complexity of the IT workforce in the United States during the past half century.

Other highlights:

· In 2014, 18 percent of IT workers were Asian compared with 6 percent of all workers.

· Software developers, applications and systems software is the largest IT occupation, accounting for 25 percent of all IT workers.

· Database administrators had among the highest percentage of women (38 percent) but also had among the largest wage gap between men and women where men’s median earnings were $86,855 compared with $56,890 for women.

· IT workers had a higher percentage of full-time, year-round workers at 87 percent versus 69 percent of the total employed.

· IT occupations had a higher rate of foreign-born workers, 24 percent compared with 17 percent of total employed. Looking at the largest IT occupation, software developers, applications and systems software, 39 percent were foreign-born.

About the American Community Survey

The American Community Survey is the only source of small area estimates for social and demographic characteristics of the U.S. population. It gives communities the current information they need to plan investments and services. Retailers, homebuilders, police departments, and town and city planners are among the many private- and public-sector decision makers who count on these annual results. Visit the ACS helps communities page to see some examples.

These statistics would not be possible without the participation of the randomly selected households in the survey.

 

This one industry disproportionately contains married households with 3 or more children and disproportionately contains SAHMs in those households.

The implications of that plus the bolded stuff left as an exercise.

 

 

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25 thoughts on “About IT workers and their huge share of married with kids population”

  1. My husband isn’t in IT, but he has that kind of mind.

    Back about 10 years ago, some apps he did as a hobby started bringing in fairly serious money–$800-900 a month. It has come and gone at different times (the Kindle Fire was a BONANZA, but it’s still ticking along at $300 a month.

    Obviously, this is not a good stand-alone income, but it is awfully nice as an addition to one. That’s how we were able to pay off all of our non-mortgage debt and save for our house purchase.

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      1. But that’s the thing. You have a sector of the economy with above average wages that aren’t stagnant, and with a decent number of foreign workers. And hell, the men in the industry tend not to be hot women chasers, so why would this be surprising at all?

        For fun, I’d want to see similar results from say, accountants and actuaries and marketing drones.

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          1. It’s surprising they form families so successfully given the narratives about them.

            I suspect it’s because we live with the stereotype of the hapless nerd with terrible social skills. Hell, I remember some of the guys from my days at engineering school, and I kinda wondered why anybody would put up with them so the stereotype made sense to me. Mind you, not everybody in IT is a hideous wreck, and there are plenty of nerdy women that don’t mind these men, so they snap them up with ease. Their high incomes tend to permit them to settle down early, and a lot of these men seem content with their simple lives with their wives. In contrast, I suspect the marketing guys are awash in women, and have no incentive to settle down.

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          1. Like begetting more non-neurotypical people, who go on the internet and complain about “Entitled American Princesses” and throw things out like SMP, SMV, LAMPS, etc.

            Assortative mating and eugenics, folks.

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        1. From what I remember, most of the guys who spoke like that were single men who were either scarred from divorce, or just single and bitter. Although, there were a few married men who presumed that about other women, but tended to be slightly older, yet assured about their own marriages.

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  2. IT -management- wife: Husband is kinda nerdy but was always popular. Always had a girlfriend. Wife painfully average looking but far from a hideous wreck.

    Debunks all the stereotypes.

    As for the meat of the post: IT is in many regards blue collar but certainly not all. The wages up to a certain point are just as stagnant as they are every where else.

    Guy who switches out printers at Walmart is not the same as network engineer but both are IT.

    Of course the argument to counter all said here is that these guys got wives because they are beta providers. Their wives are former carousel riders who are not attract to them. The poor suckers were just a means to an end.

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    1. Of course the argument to counter all said here is that these guys got wives because they are beta providers. Their wives are former carousel riders who are not attract to them. The poor suckers were just a means to an end.

      That’s the boogeyman in this type of debate. They’ll just simply point to some broken marriage and how a man was ruined by his divorce, and point out the wife’s infidelities or lack of sexual desire for him, while pointing to the success of some guy that did the opposite and now lives the life of a sexual king.

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    2. Elspeth said:

      “Of course the argument to counter all said here is that these guys got wives because they are beta providers. Their wives are former carousel riders who are not attract to them. The poor suckers were just a means to an end.”

      This is one of the most quicksand-like manosphere ideas. It’s a black hole of despair that won’t let out even a single ray of light.

      I find it one of the harder things to argue with because it’s not even wrong. Some issues that come to mind are:

      –this clever plan involves having multiple children with the beta provider dude. (And no, the women are not all bearing alpha babies to their cuckolded beta husbands–the stats on paternity demonstrate that that is not happening–2/3 of even doubtful fathers are the genetic father).
      –plus, if former carousel riders are all having alpha lovers’ babies and paying for it with beta husband’s money, then where do little baby betas come from?
      –there is a guy’s version of the carousel
      –in modern society, women don’t normally continue physical relationships when there isn’t the slightest flicker of physical attraction (barring some sort of weird Duggar-like setup for courtship–and even those couples seem to have the hots for each other)
      –the kind of woman who is most likely to land a beta provider is herself likely a fairly solid earner–she could (in a pinch) raise an only child herself as a single mother if she had to and not do too badly. In fact, she might even come out ahead (economically speaking) of a married couple with three or four children and twice the income…
      –I believe other people have noted the homoerotic vibe in manosphere guys deciding which men are attractive to women–the list somehow always winds up sounding like a slightly butcher version of the Village People singing YMCA:

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  3. “This one industry disproportionately contains married households with 3 or more children and disproportionately contains SAHMs in those households.”

    It’s already been established that workers in IT disproportionately have a greater income than average.

    Supposing single women who wanted to be SAHMs realized that IT guys were likely to make more money, it makes sense that they would marry them, stay at home, and have children. If those households have a greater income, then they could realize they could afford more children and chose to do that, too.

    I rather think there are many groups that have a disproportionately greater income than average. But, let’s face it, some of those groups are quite small. For example, I think there are a lot fewer rich rock stars and actors than there are IT workers.

    I don’t understand the point of the post. It just seems to be common sense, although, admittedly, there doesn’t seem to be an overabundance of that any more.

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  4. “This one industry disproportionately contains married households with 3 or more children and disproportionately contains SAHMs in those households.”

    “The point is that married people having kids (especially the ones having more than 2) are disproportionately from a non-neurotypical population with a historically unusual ability to earn high incomes.”

    What is the exact source(s) for these statements? They are not contained in the press release you quoted (in its entirety, I believe), so what is the basis for them?

    I am especially interested in how many IT workers are non-neurotypical (a fancy way of saying the majority of IT workers are autistic), and that these non-neurotypical people have a “historically unusual ability to earn high incomes”.

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      1. I think it’s reasonably likely that IT workers are more likely to have behaviors that are in the realm of autistic behavior. However, being introverted, socially awkward, etc. is not equivalent to being autistic.

        Having worked in IT for over 30 years, I can tell you that not all IT workers are the nerdy stereotype. Specifically, I would say that very few of them would qualify as autistic.

        Rather than assumptions, I am asking for actual data regarding how many IT workers are autistic, and how many workers in general are autistic. I also would like to know your definition of non-neurotypical.

        I look forward to your post.

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